Monthly Archives: August 2011

In light of recent events, maybe a different approach to trading is needed

It’s important, if you’re learning a new skill, to meet and learn from people who are already very good at the thing you’re trying to learn. This is self evident I think but if anyone needs proof then read some psychology. With this in mind it’s quite difficult to meet successful traders because they are thin on the ground, busy actually trading and not accessible to the ‘average’ punter.

However a few weeks ago I received an email from H2O promoting a day’s trading seminar by Anton Kreil – if anyone needs reminding this is the guy from the BBC2 TV series Million Dollar Traders. There were a couple of compelling reasons for me to attend this paid event: –

  1. Learn from the experts (see opening paragraph)
  2. Excellent value – compared to some stuff I’ve seen offered with little real ‘weight’
  3. Talked about taking a ‘different approach’ to trading
  4. Anton actually doing the talk rather than someone else
Now, without giving too much away I have to say the information Anton covered was easily the most useful I’ve seen and more importantly it just made sense.

I’ll break down why I think that last sentence is so important.

Looking at the experience I’ve had learning (teaching myself to trade) so far it’s moved in a number of stages: –

  1. Trading under a large number of false assumptions
  2. Losing and unlearning assumptions
  3. Getting educated but still making mistakes
  4. Questioning everything but still not being consistent
  5. Improving psychologically but still not having an edge and therefore still losing
  6. Taking a step back to look at the ‘big picture’
Currently I’m at stage 6 but I reckon lots of people give up before this point. It was also helpful that the seminar was on the Saturday following the first week of stock market falls…

Let’s concentrate on spread betting and the spread trading approach for the moment. I’ve posted this before but it’s worth repeating that people that start trading (especially opening spread-betting accounts with over inflated expectations) are told all about technical analysis and that it’s the way to approach the market.

No-one starts trading because they like looking at charts and love trading

On the face of it technical analysis looks simple to people who are starting trading and it’s sold as the answer to making money or even as a method for profiting from market moves.

This is where a lot of people spend an awful lot of time searching for the perfect trading system that delivers profits to them in all types of markets and regardless of what’s happening in the world. This plays into the market efficiency hypothesis and the quote that ‘everything is already in the price’… Unknown future events cannot possibly be factored into the price however.

Why was Anton’s seminar so very useful and why would I recommend it?

Simply because he’s managed to clearly present the framework that professional traders adopt in looking at the macro-economic environment in order to decide what trading ideas are going to make significant gains over the long term. This isn’t a ‘here’s a great strategy’ seminar – you can buy these by the dozen – but it covers how the professionals look at the world in order to make money.

Maybe I’ve been looking in the wrong places but after months of reading and trying to learn how to make money trading I can honestly say I’ve not run into the material presented by Anton anywhere else. So, if you wanted to look at the world and trading would you want to do this through the eyes of professional? I hope you’ve answered yes to this question!

I’d very much recommend anyone that is interested in learning a different approach to trading attend Anton’s next event here which contains more detail on the content.

Before anyone asks I’m not getting anything for promoting this event – it’s worth going to so go. Also, please don’t have the ‘technical analysis is the answer to everything’ argument with the guy at the front of the room. You’re in the audience for a reason and while TA is extremely useful you’ll learn why it’s not the be all and end all 😉    


Step away from the assumptions!

This has been by far the most challenging blog update I’ve had to write…

Having procrastinated in an olympic fashion for the last three weeks I’ve given myself the deadline (today – Saturday) to get the following out of my brain and into the real world.

Maybe this proceeds an incoming mid-life crisis or is just the symptom of a frustrated trader not taking the opportunities that present themselves.

Not to make light of the facts but really my performance to date does pretty much suck. This has led me to question a number of assumptions about trading (as presented by numerous organisations, books and courses) as well as my own biases and why people take certain paths to try to conquer the mountain.

I apologise in advance for the length of this post. I’d also like to point out in advance that I’m not ‘down on trading’ even though some of what follows might sound slightly negative 😉

It’s been a couple of weeks and of course we’re in the midst of a full on ‘lizard brain’ attack in the financial markets. While I did short the Dow at one point the volatility gave me a significant pain in the neck and I decided to stand on the sidelines 😉

Another reason for doing this has been that I’ve not had the opportunity to watch this type of market before so have very little appreciation or understanding of what’s happening. At the moment I’d reckon that putting my toe in the water could get me my leg bitten off!

Also I’m un-satisfied with how I’ve been approaching trading and have been looking at some ways to improve my overall performance. What’s contributed here is that I’ve been reading the book ‘Thinkertoys’ which outlines some creative and different ways of solving problems.

The main question I’ve been asking myself is: –

How do I become a profitable trader?

Looking at the amount of stuff I’ve already waded through in pursuit of this goal as well as the outlay I’ve begun to wonder if I’m missing a significant piece of the puzzle somewhere?!?!

I’d suggest that 90% of the information about trading, certainly related to technical trading, is pretty much the same or variations on a theme which goes something like this: –

Strategy (entry/exit), Risk:Reward, Money Management, Psychology is all… etc.

Now, maybe I’m being somewhat unrealistic but I still suck at this subject after more than 9 months and a great deal of time, money and emotional investment. I don’t think I’m retarded or particularly slow on the uptake.

Either I’m over-thinking it or my approach is flawed… so I’ve been looking for flaws by asking different questions about what I’ve been doing to see what sort of answers I come up with. Thinking sideways through a problem which encompasses trading but includes some of my own biases and the way I approach life/finances in general.

Let’s take a step back from strategy, entry/exit etc. and the specifics as I try to break this down into easily manageable pieces.

In it’s most basic form a ‘trade’ is an idea. If I’m shorting the FTSE then my ‘idea’ is that confidence is leaving the market, people are moving their money out of stocks into safer havens (cash/bonds) and the index as a whole will fall.

Now, here’s another question… How can I be certain my idea is correct? In other words when I enter a position how do I know what my odds are that the position will come good? What is my percentage chance of being right? If you are a professional card player then you will know the odds. How is it possible to take a trade and decide based on the odds what amount of capitol to risk if you don’t know what your odds are?

Here’s where I believe there’s a significant issue with the information that exists out there in the land of trading education… Very few trading strategies seem to be taught or promoted that include data about their relative level of success (win/loss ratio) in a given market. If we define ‘retail traders’ as people with <£10K in a trading account then it’s no wonder that 80% (average figure I’ve heard quoted) don’t make any money!

They (and me) are tossing a coin in the air.

Now in an earlier post I mentioned that Richard Farley had spent some time looking at ‘trend following’ and calculated the odds are 55/45 in favour of this type of approach. I’d like to have at least an idea of the chances of being right in a given set of circumstances before placing a trade. Am I asking too much?

Back to the idea – again, making it as simple as possible… Shorting the FTSE based on a bunch of technical indicators (moving averages, trend lines, broken support or pick something more esoteric) implies that you believe confidence is lacking and buyers are leaving the market.

Let’s look at it another way… Going short because the 50MA crosses under the 200MA isn’t strictly following an idea. It’s more like following a cue for action based on a number of other ideas which are collected together and the symptoms result a chart on which the price is dropping/EMA cross over.

If you do this then you’re not trading based on the primary idea (cause) but on the effect or result as described on a chart.

Doing anything when you’re one step removed from the primary data means there’s a lot of room for error and miss-interpretation. You’re going to always be playing catch up with the market. It’s certain that more informed parties are acting on information you don’t have access to and your action is happening right at the death of a particular move.

Here’s the leap… Using only technical indicator movements to trade from charts (as most ‘retail’ traders do I think) is hoping that you have the the ability to judge the prevailing wind about a stock/index in the moment when you’re divorced from the idea that is already driving the price in a certain direction.

Now, this is where the argument breaks out between technical traders and fundamental traders and I’m going to attempt to avoid engaging with it too much except to say that if you have an idea you want to base a trade on which is backed up by a good chart then I’d suggest that it’s more than likely your trade will work out.

If you have an idea based only on a technical trade setup without understanding the environment it will be less likely that your trade will work.

Here’s why I think ‘retail’ traders rely so much on and are emotionally attached to technical trading (charts) and indicators… It’s an excuse to trade in a lazy way without having your own ideas about the world and what’s going to happen.

Talking to people about charts, Gann, Elliot waves and Fibonnacci turns something that is rather pedestrian into something different, difficult and challenging. It also means you can hint at a ‘magic’ formula which needs to be understood in order to actually come good as a trader. This makes ‘selling the mystery’ of trading good business 😉

Now, let me emphasise here that I’m not going to suddenly stop looking at charts! I reckon they’re extremely useful to help visualise what’s happening but expecting to make money from a technical system without reference to context is (I think) unlikely to come good.


Here’s an example… I believe that economic and social conflict will escalate in the US during the next decade driven by the disparity between the rich/poor, the failure of the US government to lead, politics moving from debate to fixed faith in ‘fact and sound bytes’, competition for resources and disillusionment fuelled by unmet expectations.

This will be further compounded by China’s expanding sphere of influence driven primarily by having to secure the resources it needs to ensure internal social unrest is kept to a minimum. The communist party will try to maintain control through creating happy citizens who are economically better off.

Ironically they are now pursuing the model that the US has followed in the last 60 years but maybe they can avoid the hangover that the United States is currently experiencing 😉

Now, there are a whole bunch of trading ideas here. Long companies making riot gear, CCTV or providing security services. Find a way to invest in companies specialising in exploration for resources. Invest in sectors engaged in or producing the ‘shiny thing make it all better’ products of the future for a growing Chinese consumer base…

I’ve not looked at a single chart yet but I feel more confident about these ideas because these are backed up by beliefs rather than some technical voodoo (sorry, overstating the technical downer there a little!)

When financial confidence melts down then perfectly good companies also get punished – Google dropped last week and they’re an amazing company (IMHO) so it’s obviously important to pay attention to the environment.

So… Ideas? There are probably millions of them.

I’d not posted anything for two weeks because I was really having a quiet moment to look at what I was doing. As with many things in life you then stumble onto something that helps turn the tiny spark of an idea into something concrete…

When did this change of thinking really come into focus?

See my next post – Ooh! Cliff-hangar!!